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IIPP Forum 2024 - Building state capacity in the digital age
The digital era has brought about significant changes in how societies operate, and the expectations placed upon governments to deliver services, policies, and goods effectively and at scale. Paper-based, siloed government infrastructure and associated practices are no longer effective in the 21st century. Moving towards digital-era government implies rethinking how governments operate and what public infrastructure means.
This session explored a new way of thinking about digital transformation: an infrastructural approach. By leveraging IIPP's practice-oriented research on digital public infrastructure (DPI), was discussed:
- What an infrastructural approach looks like and how to develop the state capacity required to build it at scale;
- How to build and govern DPI to maximise public value creation;
- How a DPI approach can support a just green transition;
- A common good approach to digital transformation.
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IIPP Forum 2024 - Designing Transformation
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The last century saw the role of design in society grow from an enabler of industrialization and mass production to drivers of digital services, but with the climate crisis upon us, now is the time to widen the design discourse to take on the grand, complex challenges we face today. This session explores if and how design strategies can accelerate the shift in policy practice needed to support ...
Netherlands Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
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Netherlands Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
France Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
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France Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
Denmark Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
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Denmark Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
Ireland Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
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Ireland Case Exploration | IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capabilities for net zero missions
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Across the OECD alone, more than 80 'net-zero missions' have been adopted across 20 countries that target large reductions in greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. Using the ongoing development at IIPP of a Public Sector Capability Index as a frame and bringing to the forefront this wealth of experience of driving these net zero missions, the IIPP Forum 2024 presents an interactive session focused ...
IIPP Forum 2024 - Public sector capacities for transformative public policies
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Governments globally are (re-)turning to diverse industrial policy instruments to fight multiple crises and tackle long-term societal challenges such as the climate emergency. Both mainstream and heterodox economists and social scientists have expressed support for the resurgence of state-led structural change, and there is a vibrant discussion about how industrial policy instruments should be ...
DPI Map Launch - dpimap.org - 11 June 2024
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The DPI Mapping project hopes to advance our understanding of digital public infrastructure and promote the development of inclusive, and safe DPI. Explore the Map on dpimap.org Timestamp 0:00 Introduction 1:04 Sabine Mensah endorses the need for the DPI Map 5:33 Why a Map and why now? 7:28 Constraints 9:08 Goals and users 9:55 Disclaimers to insights 11:27 There are a great deal more "DPI-like...
IIPP Forum 2024 - Rethinking the State | Financing the ecological transition
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The ecological transition requires a fundamental transformation of our economies, and with it, financial flows. Historically, the key macroeconomic institutions - central banks and ministries of finance - coordinated together and with other government ministries to steer private credit & finance markets to achieve structural economic change. Today, the dominant policy narrative relies on the pr...
Mission Critical : Statecraft for the 21st Century
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Watch this UCL IIPP event marking the launch of Mission Critical, a new report written by Professor Mariana Mazzucato, Director of the UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose, in partnership with the London Borough of Camden and the Future Governance Forum. The challenges we face have rarely been greater or more complex. Overcoming them will require fundamental reform of our current sys...
Why the 2008 Financial Crisis Is Still With Us - Bailouts, Austerity and the Crisis of Democracy
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Watch this discussion that was held on Tuesday 14th May from 17:30-19:00 BST at UCL IIPP. Building on the previous lecture exploring the roots of the 2008 financial crisis, this talk looked at the long term consequences of the crisis and both the political and economic policy response. It focused on the combination of bailout, austerity and quantitative easing, as well as the price of those pol...
The 2008 Financial Crisis - Why and How it Happened
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This fascinating discussion was held on Thursday 9th May from 17:30 -19:00 BST. This lecture was part of the series on the 2008 Financial Crash and the Crisis in Neoliberal Economics. The first of two lectures, this discussion will look at the 2008 financial crisis and will seek to dispel a number of myths that have spread about the crisis since. It will examine the deep roots of the crisis in ...
The Politics of Platform Regulation: How Governments Shape Online Content Moderation
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Watch UCL IIPP in conversation's panel discussion with Dr Robert Gorwa, Postdoctoral Research Fellow at the Berlin Social Science Center and, Marisol Manfredi, PhD Candidate of Sustainable Development & Climate Change (IUSS Pavia University of Pisa) and Dr Cecilia Rikap, Head of Research, UCL IIPP, on Robert's book 'The Politics of Platform Regulation: How Governments Shape Online Content Moder...
Lessons from Bidenomics and the US Auto Strike, the British Steel Industry, and the Global South
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Watch the second lecture in UCL IIPP's Labour and Climate Change series with Damon Silvers. The discussion will look at four case studies over the last two years-President Biden’s massive climate-related public investment agenda and the response from US trade unions, the effort to decarbonise the British steel industry, the attempt to phase out the South African coal mining industry, and the ef...
The Labour Movement, the State and Climate Change
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The Labour Movement, the State and Climate Change
Mission-oriented policy and state building for the Global Majority
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Mission-oriented policy and state building for the Global Majority
Properties of Rent: Community, Capital and Politics in Globalising Delhi
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Properties of Rent: Community, Capital and Politics in Globalising Delhi
Governing Urban Data for the Public Interest
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Governing Urban Data for the Public Interest
The Great Remobilization, IIPP in conversation with Mark Esposito
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The Great Remobilization, IIPP in conversation with Mark Esposito
Innovation, Public Policy and Public Value MPA - Virtual Open Day 2024
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Innovation, Public Policy and Public Value MPA - Virtual Open Day 2024
The Future of the Factory, IIPP in conversation with Dr Jostein Hauge
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The Future of the Factory, IIPP in conversation with Dr Jostein Hauge
Our Lives in Their Portfolios: Why Asset Managers Own the World
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Our Lives in Their Portfolios: Why Asset Managers Own the World
Mission-Oriented Innovation Tools: Cases from Current Practice
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Mission-Oriented Innovation Tools: Cases from Current Practice
Making bureaucracy work for the least advantaged: In conversation with Akshay Mangla
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Making bureaucracy work for the least advantaged: In conversation with Akshay Mangla
UCL IIPP Algorithmic Rents: Research Showcase
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UCL IIPP Algorithmic Rents: Research Showcase
Mission-Oriented Innovation Tools: Typologies and Trends
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Mission-Oriented Innovation Tools: Typologies and Trends
The Entrepreneurial State 2.0. Festival - Rethinking the State in the 21st century
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The Entrepreneurial State 2.0. Festival - Rethinking the State in the 21st century
Learning from the field: Emerging practices in mission learning
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Learning from the field: Emerging practices in mission learning
Book Launch: The Big Con at UCL
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Book Launch: The Big Con at UCL

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @Ldhd69
    @Ldhd69 6 днів тому

    Which lecture is supposed to preceed this one - Damon is referring to it... ? Great lecture. Will search for Damon's lectures from now on.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 8 днів тому

    In Actuality, this is what you should expect from the perfection of hypocrisy and faked-up belief systems that have been buried in mafia-like silences for decades. The Cold War urgency for protection that cannot be, has created real non sense, that a permanent threat is a defence, and subsidized fossil fuels are a legitimate alternative to nukes and eliminating the threats by eliminating the human planet. Ancient times people were fitted to the actual superimposed cycles of real-time holography, so banking was by measures of seeds and animals, DNA "financial investment", the labor of plants in the ground/bank. "All flesh is grass". The Calculus of quality before quantity that is understood as the moral of Gold-Silver Rules now needs a review, reiteration and rational explanation inherent in e-Pi-i Superposition-point Entanglement Fusion-Fission Function resonance in QM-TIME Completeness. The intellectual ability is in abundance, pointed in the correct way free of corrupt Nomenclatures.., ie restart at First Principle Observation approach.

  • @raykirkham5357
    @raykirkham5357 8 днів тому

    I am a proponent of MMT and very much support it politically. I don't call MMT a fairy story.

  • @nancymays6506
    @nancymays6506 8 днів тому

    I'm an American and a registered democrat and am a security guard thus working poor and I can white and I work with blacks espanic and whites and everyone is working more than one job to make it and young people live with parents and all the ones I know voted for Trump and will vote for him again We don't buy your lies Trump is the first person since Rus Perrot that was not for globalism outsourcing our jobs and insourcing cheap labor You saying we are racist that is what all those who are not for national ism ie the constitution and have living wage jobs for Americans we are sick of the race to the bottom to slave labor whether you are a woman or man black or white No one thinks Trump is a perfect person and we know he has to go against a Congress and senate and judiciary all bought by the glabal elite that have gone by the golden rule he who has the gold makes up the rules so he will have all the gold and all the power We are tired of working and still it is never enough You saying trump is a racist is just not wanting to deal with Americans who are tired of competing with slave labor cheap labor the race to the bottom You are so insulting and immoral evil evil makes excuses for oppression The working class is tired of your B's lies lies all for greed at the top Your job depends on being sold out to global elite companies Devo's crowd is evil group who can't get enough power

  • @NicholBrummer
    @NicholBrummer 11 днів тому

    Also: please consider the state at its various levels. Municipalities alreasy have opportunities for money creation, investment and ways to drive the local transition. I see how bicycle paths are changing mobility. Ground source low T heating & cooling infrastructure can be a next big driver .. but only when funding & ownership reaches the optimal places. Ground source heat pumps automatically include energy storage that is essential in combination with variable wind & sun. (a positive externality, now unfunded) We must combine the virtual finance language with fysical reality.

  • @NicholBrummer
    @NicholBrummer 11 днів тому

    I hear a lot of words that obscure what and where things need to be done. Broadening balance sheets. Financing. Funding. Backstopping. Cleaning up the debt. It smells like MMT, and the jubilee of the bible and ancient Sumer, in 5000 years debt .. but obfuscated it all these words that seem the same, but are apparently different stages of a larger system. Please explain. Also acknowledge that this is not really all 'financial innovation'. These are also ancient mechanisms, with historical precedent.

  • @humanistastv
    @humanistastv 19 днів тому

    Thank you so much for this presentación!!

  • @vembrace
    @vembrace 20 днів тому

    People who say "college is a scam", obviously never attended a lecture of this caliber.

  • @guerillagardener2237
    @guerillagardener2237 21 день тому

    Neo liberalism was the authoritarian right all along, they just knew it would implode eventually, but it gave them the wealth they needed to fund nasty militarism around the world.

  • @icedancer2370
    @icedancer2370 21 день тому

    China and Russia fans in the comments, he did not mince words. Just because you take part in an evil system to protect yourself, you are still complicit in its results.

  • @kentam5361
    @kentam5361 22 дні тому

    Neoliberalism as a global system simply puts the developed and powerful economy used the underdeveloped and weak economy to advance its economic agendas.

  • @kentam5361
    @kentam5361 22 дні тому

    Neoliberalism is advanced by selfish fools who want to dominate and control others through wreaths without oversight by the government so they can run wild. Seems Donald Trump fit the bill as neoliberal.

  • @davidcarr2216
    @davidcarr2216 24 дні тому

    Since when were Clinton, Blair, Obama, Cameron, Biden, leftists ? Neoliberals sure, Left-wing neoliberals , not so much. Some kind of contradiction going on there old bean.The neoliberals control the messaging - surprise, surprise.

  • @minionsystems
    @minionsystems 25 днів тому

    Maybe I'm wrong about this but she seems to have the money creation reversed. Government must either collect taxes or borrow money BEFORE it can spend it because the account is at the Fed. The government must issue bonds and the banks buy them before the account has money to spend. Government deficits always cause inflation because "capacity" has no real scientific definition. How can capacity be measured - the government has no way of knowing what the real economic capacity is so they don't know how much they can borrow without causing inflation. The real measure is how much the government spends adjusted for productivity increases. Our economy should produce moderate deflation to account for increases in productivity - more goods and services should make lower cost per unit - i.e. slow deflation. People's savings and retirement should not loose value when productivity is increasing. While it is true that government spending provides temporary relief by putting liquidity into the markets, it is also true that the resulting debt and taxation reduce what the private sector would do more efficiently.

  • @Anubis-hm7ro
    @Anubis-hm7ro 28 днів тому

    Thank you

  • @Anubis-hm7ro
    @Anubis-hm7ro 28 днів тому

    Wow

  • @Anubis-hm7ro
    @Anubis-hm7ro 28 днів тому

    Vote Biden please

  • @Anubis-hm7ro
    @Anubis-hm7ro 28 днів тому

    Wow

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 Місяць тому

    ✌️✌️✌️🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️👏👏👏

  • @efghggdxlmfn33
    @efghggdxlmfn33 Місяць тому

    95% of Chinese expressed satisfaction with their government while only 35% Americans expressed satisfaction with their government in Harvard and Gallup polls

  • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
    @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Місяць тому

    Neoliberalism rules, ok. ua-cam.com/video/hLtkJ-AgLuY/v-deo.htmlsi=--Rh3DGDaIZwazxh

  • @RuthmarieHicks
    @RuthmarieHicks Місяць тому

    This should be watched by the whole world! It should be headline news!

  • @Lodimerg
    @Lodimerg Місяць тому

    Crisis of 2008 was biggest theft by banks .

  • @Lodimerg
    @Lodimerg Місяць тому

    I feel we never recovered. Money worth as used toilet paper.

  • @andujarpain2629
    @andujarpain2629 Місяць тому

    Why always ASHKANAZIS!! NEVER ASIAN, AFRICANS, INDIGENOUS, INDI-LATINOS!

  • @staspastukov5944
    @staspastukov5944 Місяць тому

    You said that Trump is an authoritarian and Biden is a democrat. Perhaps this is not so if we assume that neoliberalism has not become a zombie, but has turned into what is called neoconservatism. Neoliberalism is not a political regime, but neoconservatives are a political regime. Therefore, you had to refute the assertion that the United States is an authoritarian state. No, not authoritarian, but it is a neoconservative regime. Perhaps someone will be able to formulate what a neoconservative regime is.

  • @staspastukov5944
    @staspastukov5944 Місяць тому

    There was a chess boom in the USSR. This is a huge number of hands involved in the production of board games, as well as chess schools. I mean money. After the Rubik's cube boom came Tetris. It's kind of like going from a hoe to a horse to a tractor. For a hoe, a horse, a tractor, a 20% loan is, if not fatal, then bondage on the brink of survival, if there is no compensation from the state in an explicit or camouflaged form, for example in the form of benefits for children. You said that neoliberalism, if I understood correctly, is about power as an Olympic sport without rules, or rather, the future holds nothing positive?

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 Місяць тому

    biggest theft in history = lol

  • @sengs.4838
    @sengs.4838 Місяць тому

    This gentleman is very smart and clairvoyant

  • @dannywindham3295
    @dannywindham3295 Місяць тому

    Professor silver's, why do you continually say that the United States is borrowing money? The United States is borrowing money. The United States federal government creates the money. It doesn't borrow its own currency that it creates. Why do you do that, sir? You know better.

  • @dannywindham3295
    @dannywindham3295 Місяць тому

    Barack Obama said in a press conference.What the backers did was immoral and unethical but it wasn't illegal. Well, that is a lie, what they did is.Illegal fraud is illegal.Fraud is a felony.

  • @kimshaw-williams
    @kimshaw-williams Місяць тому

    The reason Thatcher had such an intellectual hegemony was JUST because she was a woman, in my opinion. therefore people gave her theories the benefit of the doubt.

  • @fuqoff8583
    @fuqoff8583 Місяць тому

    How cute, they all believe in fairytales.

  • @wanderingfido
    @wanderingfido Місяць тому

    MMT is just the bargaining phase of a grievously dying economy. It's the kubler-ross model of the five stages concreted towards the mountainous level of debt. That can no longer be paid back in full. Ever.

  • @SS-qk8oc
    @SS-qk8oc Місяць тому

    He does not “get it”.

  • @bellakrinkle9381
    @bellakrinkle9381 Місяць тому

    I remember those years. Didn't the IMF rape their lesser countries? 🥸

  • @fundidoarrojo269
    @fundidoarrojo269 Місяць тому

    01:17:45 the origins of the Ukraine war are more in the coup d'etat perpetrated by the USA against the democratically elected and neutral governments of Victor Yanukovich. We have Victoria Nuland on record handpicking the after coup government and infamously uttering "F*CK the EU".

  • @jonh7054
    @jonh7054 Місяць тому

    As a resident of the UK, I can tell you that the taxes on ordinary people is not low and we are being screwed big time. The taxes on the extremely rich might not be with tax advice and loop holes to avoid the taxes ordinary citizens pay.

  • @Trials_By_Errors
    @Trials_By_Errors Місяць тому

    Modi is More Socialist and Kensian than All westen Leaders Combined. But still he is Right Authoritarian😂.

  • @witHonor1
    @witHonor1 Місяць тому

    1:45 before the point began. Refund please. Uh uh. Still 4 minutes in and nothing. Can you edit yourself so I don't waste my time on your lack of credentials. 4:23. Finally.

  • @jason8434
    @jason8434 Місяць тому

    I started my first semester in September 2008 as a community college transfer student to state university. I didn't know anything about politics or economics, I was an English major, but I happened to be taking a political science course to fill a requirement. I remember another student who knew a lot about mortgages arguing with the professor, telling her she didn't know what she was talking about. It was a heated time, and keep in mind this came at the end of 8 years of Bush, who was hated passionately, and the utopian wishing for an Obama administration. Two years later in 2010 I graduated with a BA in English. What a decade the next ten years would be for me, economically and politically. This decade after 2008 defined me and many like me, thanks for the great lecture.

    • @briskyoungploughboy
      @briskyoungploughboy Місяць тому

      Pretty much no economists back then and still very few now actually know how anything in banking and the economy works. Your colleague that argued the professor was probably correct.

  • @carltonmcgee8878
    @carltonmcgee8878 Місяць тому

    Thank you sir.

  • @garretttedeman
    @garretttedeman Місяць тому

    Plain awesome presentation. Solid stuff all-around and all-the-way through. ...Bookmark this one.

  • @eddybiaz5677
    @eddybiaz5677 Місяць тому

    You debauch the currency and you expect to expect financial stability? The bankruptcy policies should be employed let the punters go belly up and clean the deck. But this guy is part of the problem. Let the market work. This guy is a vested insider. He should be punished!

  • @gordonlinton3555
    @gordonlinton3555 Місяць тому

    Ludicrous take on the reasons for Brexit and the implications

  • @mikeullyett
    @mikeullyett Місяць тому

    Greed.

  • @first001
    @first001 Місяць тому

    Ur a salty j3w

  • @leegregorypeck
    @leegregorypeck Місяць тому

    Is nobody critiquing this? I agree with some of it, but a lot of its nonsense. He claims at the start that Ireland found alternatives to austerity, when a massive austerity program was delivered in Ireland. Look at the 2011 budget which planned 24k job cuts, welfare cuts and wage cuts. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the UK did not know where bond yields were going at the time. We saw where they could go, as markets started refusing to lend money to certain states. Moreover we saw where they could go in the UK if we dramatically increased borrowing. Liz Truss tried it and spooked the markets, which increased our bond yields relative to our competitors. Besides these debates assume austerity was delivered in the UK, and make the ridiculous suggestion that governments replicated Hoover like policies. Hoover like policies were never replicated, as the UK government massively increased borrowing. We ran the largest deficit in our history for years and doubled our national debt as a percentage of GDP. The Bank of England printed massive amounts of money through QE and we had negative interest rates. Then he goes onto the nature of austerity, saying education and state departments that promoted the supply side were cut. Where is the evidence that education spending was ever cut in real terms? Public investment as share of GDP was higher than it was in Germany. He blames austerity for the stagnation of UK productivity, when productivity had been stagnating for several years before the 2010s. There are also so many caveats around the way productivity is calculated, which may have depressed the UK figures. For years we were told the the UK was the worst performing economy in terms of productivity growth. The figures were subsequently revised up, which moved us from bottom of the pack to average. If austerity was so destructive, then why did the UK manage to create over four million jobs during this time and suck in millions of immigrants? During the peak of austerity, the UK was creating more jobs than the rest of the EU combined. More French people cam to live in the UK since the persecution of the Huguenots. Finally this is a declinist debate, where the assumption of decline is made and we latch on to yet another fashionable scapegoat.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Місяць тому

      Order out of Chaos...

    • @SS-qk8oc
      @SS-qk8oc Місяць тому

      Agree. This guy’s analysis is not super insightful imho. And so … populism noun • a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups (which they are)

    • @theonlycaulfield
      @theonlycaulfield Місяць тому

      The guy's analysis went haywire as soon as he called the acronym PIGS racist and issued apologia for the countries based on the idea that their current problems were all a result of dictators from a half century ago. He just says this and moves on as if it is clearly established, when it is not. The countries in the 2000s were still dealing with high corruption levels, low productivity and unstable politics. What he then said about a circular market in the EU wasn't true either. He just completely made it up and expected the audience to accept it. I got chills because of how much he was twisting reality. The North of Europe isn't being supported by the South through the South buying the Norths goods, but the opposite, in that market skews towards the North buying the South's exports.

  • @julienbengkee5422
    @julienbengkee5422 Місяць тому

    N the first will be last.. N the last will be first..

  • @kortyEdna825
    @kortyEdna825 Місяць тому

    More and more people might face a tough time in retirement. Low-paying jobs, inflation, and high rents make it hard to save. Now, middle-class Americans find it tough to own a home too, leaving them without a place to retire.

    • @carssimplified2195
      @carssimplified2195 Місяць тому

      The increasing prices have impacted my plan to retire at 62, work part-time, and save for the future. I'm concerned about whether those who navigated the 2008 financial crisis had an easier time than I am currently experiencing. The combination of stock market volatility and a decrease in income is causing anxiety about whether I'll have sufficient funds for retirement.

    • @PatrickFitzgerald-cx6io
      @PatrickFitzgerald-cx6io Місяць тому

      I wholeheartedly concur; I'm 60 years old, just retired, and have about $1,250,000 in non-retirement assets. Compared to the whole value of my portfolio during the last three years, I have no debt and a very little amount of money in retirement accounts. To be completely honest, the information provided by invt-advisors can only be ignored but not neglected. Simply undertake research to choose a trustworthy one.

    • @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl
      @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl Місяць тому

      Impressive can you share more info?

    • @PatrickFitzgerald-cx6io
      @PatrickFitzgerald-cx6io Місяць тому

      There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’Colleen Rose Mccaffery” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl
      @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl Місяць тому

      Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.